Example of poor logic; threatening downtown

By: Letters
May 17, 2013 Updated: May 17, 2013 at 8:45 am
photo - Gary Betchan and his wife Becky Hale consider themselves to be a part of a rapidly growing movement called the "nones," a group who claim no religious affiliation. Thursday, April 25, 2013. Michael Ciaglo, The Gazette
Gary Betchan and his wife Becky Hale consider themselves to be a part of a rapidly growing movement called the "nones," a group who claim no religious affiliation. Thursday, April 25, 2013. Michael Ciaglo, The Gazette 

By all means, carry on

Response to Mr. and Mrs. None:

I was quite amused by the article by the religion correspondent in the May 5 Gazette. I can certainly understand how an individual's thinking can evolve and adjust to personal experience and interpretation of such. However, I take considerable offense at the comment that "Colorado Springs was beginning to turn into an abyss of prejudice, and reason seemed to be in short supply." Furthermore the comment that "people's beliefs should be formed on the basis of science and logic instead of emotion, authority, tradition or dogma" seemed rather authoritative. I thought the couple featured in the article was incredibly arrogant and close-minded. I am sure that their organization Freethinkers of Colorado Springs will not be confused with better thinkers of Colorado Springs.

One group I am familiar with that practices decision making using reason and logic, without the burden of emotion, are sociopaths. It appears this couple is suggesting a straight line between facts and belief formation without consideration of values and morals. Values are crucial to how we address facts. Individual and community values determine the appropriate implementation of scientific advances. Values originate from families, personal experience, and yes, religion to name a few. If my values have a foundation in a belief in God and yours are from Scientific American that is perfectly fine. I can be open-minded and do not perceive the rise of the "none" to be a threat to my beliefs to the extreme that I must disparage my entire community, or was it only those who were Christian that had limited reasoning ability? Tradition, emotional characteristics such as empathy, and the moral teachings of the church have served this country and Colorado Springs very well.

By all means carry on, as I support groups like the Freethinkers because they add to the dialogue of free speech that also made this country great.

Barry Schultz, Cascade


Classic example of poor logic

In the article "Meet Mr. and Mrs. None," we read of an atheist couple who make the astounding claim that "It has never been the atheists who have burned Christians at the stake." Perhaps in haste to point their finger in accusation, they were merely glossing over the reign of terror at the hands of Stalin and the gang that bloodied the 20th century. But they need only to read current events to see the martyrdom of Christians and other believing people at the hands of Cuban, Chinese and North Korean governments, to name a few.

In their commentary of a more local scope, they accuse, without condition or disclaimer, the entirety of the Christian community in the Springs as a "plague" of "crazies." Perhaps they would be willing to clarify their sweeping statements and uphold the ideal that people not attribute to the whole, the contemptuous actions of a few.

Furthermore, through their Freethinkers group, they support a false dichotomy that professes: "People's beliefs should be formed on the basis of science and logic instead of emotion, authority, tradition or dogma." There is at least one other option that brings many of us to faith, and if these two people would be interested in hearing about it, I would elaborate. Suffice it to say that their organization's stance is a classic example of poor logic as it ignores viable options in support of a pre-determined conclusion.

Their business sells bumper stickers that "promote religious dialogue." If only their own language given in this public interview would do the same. Alas, such intolerance only inflames and offends.

Amy Ponce, Colorado Springs


Threatening business, life downtown

Regarding "Colorado College traffic plan draws fire at meeting," May 2, the goal is to address immediate and long-term safety and mobility of all who travel through and around the campus, the college says. But the resulting proposals reduce mobility through the campus and neighborhood, and threaten business and life downtown.

The plan's centerpiece is to narrow Cascade Avenue to one lane each way, with the goal of slowing traffic from downtown to about Fontanero St. The Gazette story also says they want to narrow Nevada Avenue to one lane.

The college thinks this improves the environment of the college, but it doesn't really. It shifts additional traffic to neighborhoods where new young families with children are moving in.

The plan would back up traffic everywhere, including the college. On Friday, 5:30 p.m. at Nevada and Uintah, cars backed up 1+ to 2 blocks in two lanes of north-bound Nevada, after the left-turn lane had cleared. On Cascade, the cars back up about one block while waiting for the light to change. Imagine the blockage if there were only one lane.

The plan makes it more difficult to get from north Colorado Springs to downtown businesses, residences, and cultural sites, as well as from downtown to Penrose Hospital. This would negate city plans to encourage development downtown. CC students, staff, and other pedestrians must take responsibility for their safety, rather than limiting traffic on streets.

William H. Escovitz, Colorado Springs


Old dogs can learn new tricks

Higher postal prices: less usage, everywhere.

The higher the price of postage the more people will look for options to communicate and pay bills. I do and I'm in my late 70s. Old dogs CAN learn new tricks. In today's electronic world fewer people use first class mail.

I do not see that junk mail rates are to go up. That is about all I get in my mailbox these days.

Carol Stoody

Colorado Springs

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